Secrets Of Building Killer Sounds In Software!, Quick and Dirty Tips and Tricks to get you to your tone! |
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Secrets Of Building Killer Sounds In Software!, Quick and Dirty Tips and Tricks to get you to your tone! |
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Jul 12 2014, 05:30 AM |
SECRETS OF BUILDING KILLER TONE IN SOFTWARE! (Overloud TH2) PART 1 of 4 (Direct Link) http://bitly.com/secretsoftonebuilding LINK TO THE WIKI ARTICLE WITH THIS INFORMATION IN ONE READABLE POST: You ever wonder why it sounds amazing when some folks make patches in guitar plugins? And sometimes it sounds less than amazing when other folks do it? There are some tips that will help get you towards TONE NIRVANA without taking endless hours away from your practice time!!! I"m going to break down on patch and you can use these techniques in ANY PROGRAM that contains basic effects. If the program you are using does not contain effects, time to grab one that does The usual suspects are guitar rig free amplitude free, sgear demo, TH2 demo, (I'm not going to mention lepou as it's without effects) so let's dig in! Step 1. BEFORE YOU HIT YOUR AMP/HEAD!!! *Take a look at the screen grab above. Here is what's happening in it. THE SIGNAL CHAIN PARAMETRIC EQ (Variable Equalizer, Knobs instead of Sliders) *The reason to put this FIRST in your chain is to shape the tone BEFORE it hits any other processing. Look at the numbers in red in the unit. I"m boosting a bit at 742hz which gives things punch and cutting/removing a bit at 155hz which is where all the HORRIBLE MUD lives. VARIMU COMPRESSOR (A very pricey compressor that you can read more about at this link http://www.manley.com/mslc.php) *Look at the numbers in red. Very low "compression ratio" with a bit of "sustain". Essentially I'm using the compressor as a sort of booster so that I don't have to burn out my picking hand and it helps drive the gain. GATE EXPANDER ( Just a fancy Noise Gate really.) *Both of them are there just to clean up the signal. TUBE NINE ( A Tube Screamer Overdrive clone.) *Just like a Tube Screamer, it's there to act as a preamp and give more signal to the Amp/Head so that the drive section has more to work with and as a result, sounds MEANER! CHR-2 (Clone of a BOSS Stereo Chorus unit.) *Just a pinch of stereo chorus helps the tone sound big and wide and thick. And that's it!!! Next time, THE AMP STAGE!!! Todd This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Sep 5 2014, 12:04 AM |
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Jul 13 2014, 10:56 AM
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Thanks Todd, looking forward for next posts.
Carmine |
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Jul 14 2014, 10:49 PM |
I downloaded the TH2 demo, so.... with ya so far
-------------------- You say 'minor pentatonic ' like it's a bad thing |
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Jul 31 2014, 01:55 AM |
SECRETS OF BUILDING KILLER TONE IN SOFTWARE! (Overloud TH2)
PART 4 of 4 Now for our final installment. POST PROCESSING!! This is what happens AFTER the AMP/HEAD and Mic/Cabinet decisions. Here is a screen grab of the post processing rack and the entire signal chain. *Here is the actual patch all of this is pulled from. TH_300.xml.zip ( 3.51K ) Number of downloads: 227 Let's break this down. PARAMETRIC EQ (Variable Equalizer, Knobs instead of Sliders) *I've stacked 2 parametric equalizer units here. To see what each one is doing, download the patch and turn each unit off then back on. You can hear right away the impact on the tone. I"m using them to cut out some "Mud" and to limit the frequency range to about 11khz. DIGITAL DELAY (Digital version of a Delay/Echo Unit) *I"m again stacking 2 units here. I'm using short delay times on both which creates very little "echo" effect. Primarily, I"m using them for tone shaping to thicken things up. Again, turn them off and play, then turn them back on to hear the impact on tone. SPRING REVERB (Based on Vintage Spring Reverb Unit) *This is an emulation of a vintage reverb unit that actually used a physical spring to create the reverb effect. It creates a very smooth, analogue sounding reverb. I'm adding just a pinch. PLATE REVERB (Based on Vintage Plate Reverb Unit) *Also based on a Vintage unit, this reverb simulates a unit that originally used a physical metal plate to create the reverb effect. I'm using it to create a "room reverb" sound. In other words, I'm making it sound like the guitar cabinet is in a large studio room. This gives is a classic Metal Sound. IN CONCLUSION In conclusion, I hope that this thread has been useful in helping you to understand how I build my patches and hopefully to understand how you can build better patches. Download the patch from this post. Modify it, save it as your own patch. Use it as a template. It makes a great starting point Feel free to post your results to this thread!!! I'd love to hear them!! This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Jul 31 2014, 02:04 AM |
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Nov 4 2014, 10:41 PM |
I went through the steps and tried to match your settings as best I could, it came out like this :
https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/todd-patch turned out quite good I think I need to go back over each stage now and play around a bit to try and be able to build my own tones. Cool thread, Todd. Thanks duder In conclusion, I hope that this thread has been useful in helping you to understand how I build my patches and hopefully to understand how you can build better patches. Download the patch from this post. Modify it, save it as your own patch. Use it as a template. It makes a great starting point [b]Feel free to post your results to this thread!!! I'd love to hear them!! -------------------- You say 'minor pentatonic ' like it's a bad thing |
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Nov 5 2014, 02:01 AM |
NIcely done!!! Sounds quite spiff You sir are ready to dig in and make your own killer tones!!!
Todd I went through the steps and tried to match your settings as best I could, it came out like this : https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/todd-patch turned out quite good I think I need to go back over each stage now and play around a bit to try and be able to build my own tones. Cool thread, Todd. Thanks duder |
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Nov 23 2014, 03:56 PM |
WOW!! Nice patch!!! Would you mind sharing it in my TH2 PATCH THREAD? It's open for posting HEre is the link to the thread.
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...2250&hl=Th2 As for reverb, sounds good to me What you might do is make several variations of this patch and just save them in them in the same bank. That way when trying out sounds you can just click through them quickly. Thats what I will often do It looks like you are starting to get a good grasp of the TH2 workings! It's among the more complex sims I've ever worked with but it's also the most flexible beyond anything else I've tried. So it's my fave It's almost a "Boutique" sim in that it's not that widely known or used. But it is used to great effect by many a player, including yourself Todd hey Todd, I was using your preset from the soulful ballad collab, Ive tweaked the reverb and the delay slightly, trying to go for a vintagey gilmour-ish type of vibe.
tbh Its one of the coolest presets Ive used on TH2 as it is but I wondered if it sounds okay against this backing or if it should be tweaked any more.... not sure if it's still too reverby. what do you think? This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Nov 23 2014, 03:57 PM |
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Nov 25 2014, 11:00 PM |
I didnt have any EQ in the chain at all! Ive added it at the start now.
Would it also be the very last thing in the chain? after the splitter? here's the layout I have just now, as you can see I pretty much ripped it from your soul ballad patch [attachment=39960:full.jpg] Ive adjusted the delay and reverb from your collab settings and this is the section Ive mostly tampered with - [attachment=39962:1.jpg] The rest of the chain is more or less your soul collab patch. I tried changing the amps but in the end I just ran with your choice of amp and cab as they seemed to sound the best. this is what its sounding like now, with the EQ at the front of the chain - https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/59test3 -------------------- You say 'minor pentatonic ' like it's a bad thing |
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Nov 26 2014, 06:00 AM |
Digging it!! YOu can put another parametric after the mixer for final tone shaping Keeep in mind, the parametric eq at the head of the chain will impact how the "gain" gets processed. The eq at the tail of the chain just shapes whatever is coming out. Both are handy
You might add another AMP in the second signal patch! not that you need to, just to see the impac of running dual amps vs one amp on A and FX only on B Keep tweaking your brains out!! IT's the best way to learn. Todd I didnt have any EQ in the chain at all! Ive added it at the start now.
Would it also be the very last thing in the chain? after the splitter? here's the layout I have just now, as you can see I pretty much ripped it from your soul ballad patch [attachment=39960:full.jpg] Ive adjusted the delay and reverb from your collab settings and this is the section Ive mostly tampered with - [attachment=39962:1.jpg] The rest of the chain is more or less your soul collab patch. I tried changing the amps but in the end I just ran with your choice of amp and cab as they seemed to sound the best. this is what its sounding like now, with the EQ at the front of the chain - https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/59test3 |
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